“帕奎奥借口‘晕针、晕血、宗教信仰’拒绝血检”这种说法纯属扯淡！【强帖】

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  谣言——帕奎奥借口“晕针、晕血、宗教信仰”来拒绝梅威瑟提出的随机血检要求。
  这是一个彻头彻尾的谣言，然而，这个谣言在国内拳击论坛流传几年，以讹传讹，似乎变成了真的。可悲！
  事实真相——帕奎奥本人，包括其推广人、顾问、教练都没有说过帕奎奥会晕针、晕血，或者说帕奎奥因为宗教信仰原因，不能搞血检，不能抽血化验。从来没说过。关于帕梅大战的谈判，焦点不是帕奎奥能不能抽血化验的问题，而是这种随机血检到底需不需要有个截止日期。帕方坚持要在14天前截止，而梅方似乎要求直到比赛前几天，甚至当天。

  实际上，拳迷只要稍微思考一下，是不难弄清这个谣言的真相的。如果帕奎奥真的是信仰因素或者会晕针晕血，那就会完全拒绝搞血检，而不是在截止日期上纠缠。并且，之前帕奎奥对战莫拉莱斯也搞过血检。所以，帕奎奥血检完全没有问题，问题在于截止日期。什么晕信仰、晕针、晕血纯属误解、误导，有些人是别有用心。

  仅仅是做如上分析，想完全澄清这个弥天大谎是不够的。还好，功夫不负有心人，笔者找到了谣言的源头，以及外文原文。

  谣言的源头——康奇承认，曼尼一直没有接受无截止期限的随机血检(出处: 拳击帝国论坛)
http://bbs.quanji.net/forum.php? ... 5&fromuid=19495
这是则新闻翻译，原文出处是http://fighthype.com/pages/conte ... 2339d57bcfc8b9ad882

  由于这篇新闻翻译的不准确和随意，使国内读者产生误解。从没看过境外拳迷、记者或作家对帕的“三晕”做过评论和报道，问题就出在这儿了。

  首先，晕信仰。——属于错误翻译。
  康奇在接受采访时，根本没有说帕奎奥因信仰（宗教信仰）不能搞血检。康奇说：帕奎奥希望有个截止日期条款，是源于他的一个信念，那就是在比赛前几天失血会让他体力上虚弱。（Pacquiao's desire for a cut-off date stems from his belief that losing blood a few days prior to a fight will make him weak physically. ）belief 这个词是多义词，有信仰的意思，但在这里是指一种信念，一种想法，就是帕奎奥觉得在比赛前几天失血会让他体力上虚弱，会让他失去比赛。有前车之鉴，帕奎奥对战莫拉莱斯的教训。

  其次，晕针。——属于翻译者自己臆造。
  康奇指出：帕奎奥害怕针，讨厌针。（Koncz also pointed out Pacquiao's fear of needles. He hates needles.）hates needles怎么可以翻译成晕针呢？晕针：在针刺过程中病人突然发生头晕、目眩、心慌、恶心，甚至晕厥的现象。（faintng during acupuncture treatment）。由于帕奎奥被臆造出晕针的托词，结果拳迷就说帕奎奥说谎，说帕奎奥有纹身，还说晕针，是不着边际。可见，胡乱翻译害人不浅。

  第三，晕血。——更是无中生有，是帕黑们自己在脑海中生成。这里不作解释了。
  
  笔者感悟：起初，帕的批评者不断拿帕奎奥的“晕针、晕血、晕信仰”说事的时候，我是将信将疑，觉得有可能，帕阵营中发言者太多，阿鲁姆又乱放炮，康奇、罗奇也时不时地出来说话，于是总想找到出处。现在看了康奇接受采访的文字，终于明白。什么信仰、晕针不能血检之类说话，是不准确的。关于梅帕谈判，焦点是: 帕奎奥想有个截止日期，最好在14天截止，赛后再血检。而梅威瑟坚持更靠近比赛。是非还是由大家来判断吧。

KONCZ CONFIRMS PACQUIAO HAS NOT AGREED TO RANDOM DRUG TESTS WITH NO CUT-OFF DATE
By Gary Reynolds | July 07, 2011

While many have speculated as to whether or not Manny Pacquiao has truly conceded to all of Floyd Mayweather's terms, his adviser, Michael Koncz, recently confirmed that they have not agreed to the random blood and urine drug tests that Mayweather wants prior to all of his fights. "Yeah, well we agreed to, in the past, random testing as long as when we get tested, he gets tested, up to 14 days," Koncz revealed in an interview with FightHype's own Ben Thompson, ** it clear that they're still asking for a cut-off date some time during the weeks prior to the bout. "We're not going to test on the day of the fight. I'm not going to sit here and tell you yes, we'll agree to do tests that day or not, but What we've done in the past, we've agreed to give blood immediately after the fight, but then the problem is the commission told us that they won't do that because it's not sterile in the dressing rooms. Will we give blood 5 days, 7 days before the fight? You know, that's something I have to talk to Manny about, but we have nothing to hide. I certainly can tell you we will not give any type of blood on the day of the fight," Koncz continued.

According to Koncz, Pacquiao's desire for a cut-off date stems from his belief that losing blood a few days prior to a fight will make him weak physically. It's a principle that Pacquiao has stood by ever since he suffered his last loss to Mexican legend Erik Morales over six yeas ago. "Once again, it's Manny's belief, and I witnessed it myself at the Morales fight. The blood test got lost when Murad Muhammad was still around; something happened to it and we had to redo the blood test, I don't know, it was 2 or 3 days before the fight," Koncz explained. "Whether it's true or not, the same goes for Floyd, but whether it's true or not, if a person has that belief that needles and taking blood effects your strength and effects you physically, that's in your mind and your mind is stronger than your body. So if that belief is there, it's gonna effect you in a negative way. The same thing for Floyd, if he really believes Manny is on something, his mind is going to take over and it's going to control him."

Koncz also pointed out Pacquiao's fear of needles as being a motivating factor in their desire for a cut-off date. "That's the same thing with Manny and needles. He hates needles. We're not ** anything up. As I said, when we tried to make the fight the first time around, you know, look in the archives; we've always talked about needles and how he's afraid of needles, and we've always used the Morales fight as an example. That wasn't something that we just drummed up when the first negotiations came for Floyd," remarked Koncz. "And again, how do I change his mind on that? That's something that's implanted in his mind and if he believes that so steadfast, as he does, it's going to effect him in a negative way. I'm not saying he's right or wrong, but I do know that the mind is stronger than the body and if that's your belief, you know, it could effect you, and it more likely will than not in a negative way."

Even though neither side sees eye to eye on the matter of drug testing, Koncz seemed optimistic that eventually, both sides will come to an agreement and make the fight so long as it's something that both fighters truly want. "If both fighters really want to make the fight, I believe it can be made because both fighters will compromise where each of them are happy and it'll happen," he added.

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康奇承认，曼尼一直没有接受无截止期限的随机血检
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(出处: 拳击帝国论坛)

闲着没事

害怕针和晕针的区别如何界定呢？

小强帝国

闲着没事 发表于 2013-9-11 10:40
害怕针和晕针的区别如何界定呢？

文中有提到。

晕针的人，一打针会有严重不良反应。

害怕针，或者说讨厌打针。对帕来说，他觉得会让他感觉到虚弱，很可能是心理因素。

闲着没事

小强帝国 发表于 2013-9-11 10:45
文中有提到。

晕针的人，一打针会有严重不良反应。

有人说帕检针头会晕厥么？

恐惧和害怕针头与晕针区别也不大啊？

勇者

这咋又成了冤案，搞不清啊。
几年来，都是这么传的，也没见有澄清的，搞不懂。

闲着没事

另外，宗教信仰不允许他抽血，这个应该是真的。会有帕黑给你连接的，例如；看弟就可以KO你

小强帝国

闲着没事 发表于 2013-9-11 10:55
有人说帕检针头会晕厥么？

恐惧和害怕针头与晕针区别也不大啊？

呵呵。

小朋友都害怕打针，但不能说小朋友都晕针吧。

晕针是什么，一打针会类似恶心、晕倒的反应。

帕奎奥不喜欢打针。康奇说的是这个意思。如果翻译成晕针，帕黑们高兴死了，马上说帕奎奥雷人、说谎。

小强帝国

闲着没事 发表于 2013-9-11 11:00
另外，宗教信仰不允许他抽血，这个应该是真的。

天主教说，不能抽血？连医学上的抽血都不行？我是没听说过。

小强帝国

闲着没事 发表于 2013-9-11 11:00
另外，宗教信仰不允许他抽血，这个应该是真的。会有帕黑给你连接的，例如；看弟就可以KO你

我倒希望看弟能拿出“帕奎奥一方用宗教、晕针来反对无截止日期血检”的证据来。